Any experts on Atkins or South Beach or other low carb high ...

Question by A1: Any experts on Atkins or South Beach or other low carb high nutrition diets for comments?
I am looking for any expert advisers who would take the time to comment on my views.

Simply because I do not want to steer anyone down a path to poor health since I have been down several myself and with bad results.

So I am seeking comments on my post that follows:

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Hi,

After reading your question I saw you were interested in optimizing your nutrition [(-:] so I thought I would give you some pointers I have learned the hard way from my own bad ?uninformed? choices so you could learn about good advice and bad advice.

A ?reference? diet plan is given below in PS1 that I had found to be the best possible nutrition for me to cure my heart disease problem from too many carbs for too long, but that diet was before my present health issues ? that I know are cholesterol and calcium related because these foods are triggers for me now.

I used to be an old advocate of Atkins diet before I knew what I now know, so nowadays I do not recommend Atkins high protein and fat diet for long term but would always recommend a ?high- nutrition? VEGAN diet replacing the meat with lentils ? but many people will not do this. Sooo even though I give a meat diet plan in PS1 below, let me share a little more to help you understand not only how to lose weight ? but how to be stronger and healthier for the long term.

You may already know this but if not let me first explain that keeping to a plan that fights against bad habits that might be on the verge of seriously tearing down your body is sometimes pretty tough ? but being fit and strong versus being overweight and/or sickly is all about (1) how many calories you eat versus how many you burn and (2) IF your calories are primarily the BEST QUALITY PROTEINS or primarily junk sugar-carbs.

Please consider that it is not just how few cabs and fats and how much lean protein you eat in order to become ?stronger,? but how many absorbable non-toxic vitamin and minerals are obtained from the protein or fats you would eat.

For instance, egg whites have 89% protein, but egg whites are similar in its nutrition per calorie as to eating sweet corn that usually has only about 15% protein. So even though the higher protein egg whites ?look? good IF ALL you look at is the protein content, it is really not much better for you than sweet corn.

Not good if you understand that they identified the pellagra problem in the 1930?s south was the result of the high calories and minimal amounts of vitamins and minerals caused by a diet of primarily sweet corn. [See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pellagra ] This disease has identical long term health effects as the scurvy and beriberi problems that are also a result of eating too many calories with not enough nutrients. They cured pellagra in dogs by giving them liver and brewers yeast, but the problem with these are the long term effects of cholesterol in the liver and the short term toxic effects of elemental copper in the brewers yeast that is the rust residue from the vats the yeast is grown in.

A similar lesser nutrition choice would be when eating tenderloin versus spinach. Boiled spinach has about 56% protein to beef tenderloin?s 61% protein, but spinach has almost 700%, or seven times, the vitamin and minerals of tenderloin calorie per calorie. The problem with spinach is that the spinach calories would cost about ten times the cost of beef calories. Spending $ 50 per day to eat several pounds of spinach may make any animal as strong as an elite triple-crown race horse, but few people can afford to spend that much for their food ? so meat protein is what people typically consume. Even so, many longevity experts are encouraging that people would start to eat 200 calories of leafy greens a day which would cost about $ 10 per day but it is a small cost to pay when considering the strength longevity and good health it would promote.

Take a few minutes to understand ?good? nutritional advice versus poor advice and I hope you will have learned something from my ?mistakes? that will soon help you along your way.

A1
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PS1 ? This was my diet plan before I became a 99.9% VEGAN:

Your body's fat with no water in it has 9 calories per gram which is about 4091 calories per pound of fat. The number usually used is 3500 calories which ?assumes? 14.4% water in an average person?s fat, but this would depend upon if you ate salty or spicy foods a-lot before you would start a new regimen. If it were me I would choose 2 pounds a week for two months rather than a pound a week for four months and start at reducing 500 calories a day and adding 30 minutes of exercise five times a week. - but that is me. You will lose a lot of water weight at first when you eliminate salt and spicy foods, probably about four to five to ten pounds a week for one to two weeks.

IF I were you and I had to have ?meat? I would eat home boiled skinless chicken or croc
IF I were you and I had to have ?meat? I would eat home boiled skinless chicken or crock potted beef heart or round steak and also lentils and also spinach together as a meal to improve nutrition, absorption, and the foods passage through your gut to the stool. About 1200 calories a day total which consist of 100 to 200 calories of squeeze drained spinach with a light sugar_vinaigrette, 600 calories from 15 ounces of lentils, and less than 100 calories of tomato marinara sauce, and no_more_than 400 calories of ?meat? which is about 8 ounces, especially when chicken has only ~68% the nutrition per calorie of properly grown lentils. Spinach has ~500%, five times, the nutrition per calorie of lentils and both together are also necessary for me to buffer my digestion/elimination. I never eat meat alone since it used to cause reddish stools for me.
PS3 - I currently feel that what Dr. Fuhrman MD teaches is the best nutritional information available in the nation.

http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/cat-low-carb-high-protein.html

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2627/2

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=43

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

http://www.foodnews.org/index.php

Again, I hope you consider my mistakes and would not duplicate them, OK?

PS 4 -

For whoever wants to post about the Acai Berry scam I hope you leave your scam spam post here for others to learn from.

Firstly, I do not believe that the highly profitable nutri- pharmaceutical corp that you are promoting and selling for has even taken the time to spend $ 1,000 on a full nutritional analysis of what is in Acai Berry.
SEE :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C3%A7a%C3%AD_Palm
Here is an article about the state of Texas suing Acai Corp in ?Texas Attacks Acai Product Marketing Scheme?
AT:
http://www.quackwatch.org/02ConsumerProtection/AG/TX/fx.html .

Secondly there is no magic to good nutrition. Good choices make people healthy and quick fix scams with snake oils destroy people?s health and lives.

I have been sold a lot of snake oil in my own life until I learned to look at the research. For scams such as what you are advertising there is no valid research compiled, firstly from a few hundred animal guinea pigs ? then a few hundred people.

The truth makes people healthy not quick dollar scams. The truth is sometimes harder medicine to take though ? because it requires ?discipline? to conquer poor habits.

I hope you will eventually become a ?good? textbook nutritionist like Dr. Fuhrman and others have become and would help others rather than hurt them for a few quick dollars.

I wish you good health from good choices in your future.

A1 [(-:]
Bookgirl,

I hope you will Email me directly, OK?

You said: ?A vegan diet is healthy for some but others very dangerous and too much protein is bad for you as the excess is stored as fat.?

Firstly, I have learned that good nutrition is not difficult rocket science. Also, longevity experts like Roy L. Walford, M.D. and Joel Fuhrman M. D. and most other nutritionists teach is that excess calories for a day from carbs and fats convert to fat in the same way excess protein does. The nice thing about protein is it is harder to overeat since your nutritional needs become satisfied faster and you do not have added cravings to eat more and more and more calories in order to satisfy those daily nutritional needs that you have when you eat a lot of carbs and fats, which are then causing your body to pump excess adrenaline, in order to burn off those excess carb and fat calories if you did not run them off, as your heart pumps harder and faster.

Secondly, how is Veganism ?harmful? to some?
PS5 ? Also, while minimizing the meat-cholesterol in my own diet I have seen that the requirements of B12 can only be obtained >from eating 4 ounces of beef liver every 30 days, or 4 oz beef heart every 4 days, or 4 oz of beef round steak every 2 days.

So I suppose I am a 96% VEGAN to satisfy the Fed?s present B12 Recommended Dietary Allowances (RDA).

Again, I hope this helps others to understand good choices.

A1
Bookgirl,

Thanks for your post since your views and those of others have caused me to examine B12 and fats better. I wish I could find better sources I could ?trust? but since my being poisoned by the metallic copper in nutritional yeast for now the most concentrated source I can come up with is beef. I will keep researching on this.

Thanks,
A1

Thank you so much for your encouragements to be more of a VEGAN. I am doing research on how to get the B12 and fats in as organic a way and as VEGAN a way as is possible.

If you know of other inexpensive sources that are tried and true besides nutritional yeast. feel free to email me back if you would. I will keep doing research and again I thank you soo much for your post.

My best to you and yours,
A1

The reasons I am very negative about Atkins way of dieting after several years of cheap high protein nutrition, is shared in my post at http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Aku4bDzanLG4d6t2m4D5SCfty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20090922235820AArWxgX.

I hope others will learn from my mistakes.
A1[(-:]
Best answer:

Answer by Bookgirl
Have you studied nutrition? I dont think so. I have and Im a personal trainer so here is my advice. Some of your opinions are good but not totally correct. Advocating any eating plan means you need to be trained. A vegan diet is healthy for some but others very dangerous and too much protein is bad for you as the excess is stored as fat. The facts you have about food are right but as you have limited knowledge of the physiology of the human body you are not in a position to advise others. What works for you will not work for everyone.

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